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New Swivels? Help please.
« on: 21 April 2013, 08:55:14 pm »
Hi guys,

Unfortunately a good clean of the old girl's undercarrige has shown that the chrome is absolutely shot on the swivel chalices  *help* - so I'm going to have to bite the bullet and buy new :(
Now I know Paddocks sell them but the last thing I want to do is buy **itpart stuff - especially on an item like that and especially after the fun I had with one of their fuel senders and gaskets :smiley-furious:.  Question is, do I have a choice?!  Can you guys recommend where to get them from if not from Paddocks please?

I was hoping that our spares vehicle would be able to donate a pair for the cause but it's past life must have been winching boats up the beach...

Unfortunately with our car (main mode of transport) having gone technical(!) the landy has been pressed into service before we've been able to restore her so a few jobs have now been pushed up the priority stack.

Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: 21 April 2013, 09:11:39 pm »
Might be best to look for an Ex-Mil front axle on eBay. If yours is 88" and you end up with a 109 axle, you get bigger brakes.....

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« Reply #2 on: 21 April 2013, 09:15:31 pm »
Worth paying for. And not questionable quality...

http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/1175/15/10/539741-SWIVEL-HOUSING-CHROME-BALL.html

You can get them re-chromed, bodge over some Araldite, or just resign yourself to changing the housing seals avery few months, as the old ones get gouged by the pitting in the spheres. But you're only putting of the inevitable and risking parching your stub-axle UJs through periodic absence of lube.

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« Reply #3 on: 21 April 2013, 09:19:17 pm »
Hi Albert,
I'll keep an eye out on e-bay in case one comes up - unfortunately most people don't ship axles to Guernsey though! Might get lucky though :)

Drew, many thanks for that! I'll give them a ring :)

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« Reply #4 on: 22 April 2013, 10:42:30 pm »
I quite like LR Direct as they give you a choice of suppliers:
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I've had plenty from LR Series and if they say OEM it will be, for the price I think I'd buy from them as sourcing a decent ex-MOD axle may not be geographically workable!
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« Reply #5 on: 22 April 2013, 11:24:53 pm »
Thanks Noel! Decisions, decisions!

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« Reply #6 on: 24 April 2013, 12:41:21 am »
I think you will find most of the swivels are currently britpart including the OEM stuff, really not very good quality at all, I have had to use one as I could not find an alternative. The chrome is really thin and poor the machining marks are showing through the finish, i don't envisage it is going to last as long as the original one on the other side.

Some people have ordered these from several scources and they all seem to be sending the same shite out at the moment just some are charging more than others. I plan to fit leather gaitors in an attempt to help it last a bit longer, there are loads of stories of these rusting within months.

I would be intrested to see what you get when you order the "LAND ROVER" one from land rover direct at £130, i suspect it will be the same unit put in a white box intead of a blue one.

If you do find a good scource with smoothe well chromed finish please post up.
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« Reply #7 on: 24 April 2013, 08:13:50 am »
Unless a part comes sealed in Land Rover packaging how can we be sure it's a genuine part. I've had parts which were meant to have been genuine, but looked no better than the failed Britpart part I'd just removed. 
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« Reply #8 on: 24 April 2013, 06:40:53 pm »
I think the problem is land rover themselves are using Britpart as OEM for some bits.
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« Reply #9 on: 24 April 2013, 10:10:18 pm »
Could be worth trying Blanchards?  Expensive but they may have some ex-MOD stock?  Or just buy their ex-MOD chassis!
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« Reply #10 on: 25 April 2013, 12:17:05 am »
Thanks for the info all! I've gone with LRSeries for now - I'll have a goosey at what turns up and report back!

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« Reply #12 on: 25 April 2013, 08:24:08 pm »
OEM or pattern parts all seem to be suffering from the same Malady of worn out tooling and then worn machining fixtures and machine tools.
I am a toolmaker working for an aluminium foundry and the quality is not what it should be on our supplies to OEM.
The main problem is the customer will not pay for new tooling for the volumes they are selling and lower their sandards to suit.

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« Reply #13 on: 25 April 2013, 10:00:40 pm »
The OEM spec swivels are sold by Britpart...their OEM everything else isn't as bad as their unbadged stuff, usually, branded bits with their sticker over the top  :)

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« Reply #14 on: 25 April 2013, 10:20:46 pm »
The OEM spec swivels are sold by Britpart...their OEM everything else isn't as bad as their unbadged stuff, usually, branded bits with their sticker over the top  :)

Thought about this, what about taking a new set and having them chromed over the top of the 'new' chrome?

Too late for me, they are already rusting after five months and 300 miles; if that; of use, stored inside as well.
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