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Re: Rear Hub seal on S3?
« Reply #15 on: 22 April 2013, 09:42:03 am »
well it has the later bulkhead with the complete drip rail small dash vents and speedo trip. also no factory fog light, centre switch panel fitted with hazards. looks like it had a full canvas at some point im no expert but id like to have a stab at 1978 to 1980.
looks like it could be ex military, with a strange rear cross member or is there something i dont know, looks like military ends with civilian centre :-?

Back body looks to have had the 1983 light arrangement at some point, antiburst door locks were also found on the late military stuff.  I'd say certainly some of the body is from a late 109 CL spec.
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« Reply #16 on: 22 April 2013, 09:45:47 am »
im no expert. i was always under the impression the the MOD had twin tanks under the seats and not at the rear, so im not sure also I think the spring shackles are longer on MOD landies as well as longer reinforced spring hangers. maybe MOD chassis and bulkhead and civilian body??

now you mention it I can see some mods on the rear body for lights, maybe the tub has been replaced with a later one
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« Reply #17 on: 23 April 2013, 10:29:18 am »
So the consensus is mostly late 70's to 80 with some ex-MOD running gear/chassis and a possible later civilian rear tub?

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« Reply #18 on: 23 April 2013, 12:28:28 pm »
I thought you would have had a few more replies off those with a greater knowledge to behonest, theres bound to be somebody who can narrow it further
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« Reply #19 on: 23 April 2013, 01:48:28 pm »
It really doesn't matter what the body is anyway, it's a good solid motor and that's what counts. What are your plans for it?

As far as the ex MOD bits go, there are three common flavours of 109.  Put simply:

The CL spec: Civilian chassis with rear tank and 12V electrics.
The GS spec: Military combat chassis with underseat tanks and 12V electrics.
The FFR spec: As the GS but with 24V electrics and additional gubbins for the radio equipment.

Hence me saying that some body parts look to be from a late 109 CL.  A lot of 109s were released from military service in 1997, and I would not be surprised if some of them became parts donors.
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« Reply #20 on: 23 April 2013, 06:30:38 pm »
It really doesn't matter what the body is anyway, it's a good solid motor and that's what counts. What are your plans for it?

As far as the ex MOD bits go, there are three common flavours of 109.  Put simply:

The CL spec: Civilian chassis with rear tank and 12V electrics.
The GS spec: Military combat chassis with underseat tanks and 12V electrics.
The FFR spec: As the GS but with 24V electrics and additional gubbins for the radio equipment.

Hence me saying that some body parts look to be from a late 109 CL.  A lot of 109s were released from military service in 1997, and I would not be surprised if some of them became parts donors.

I quite agree, to me it's a great runner and a very helpful tool. I don't really have many plans, both door tops need replacing (got them just need to repaint them and fit them) and it needs a few small jobs but by and large it's just very usable if a little thirsty at 18mpg. I only do about 500 miles a year in it, it costs nothing to own otherwise.
 
I'd like to put some more compliant springs on it and it'll need a new gearbox at some point (I've found them not the easiest thing to find and not really knowing it's real age I wasn't too sure what I needed to get to replace it, or does it really matter? ) as there is no syncro on 3rd & 4th at all, but apart from that I intend to use it and enjoy it. It's invaluable at home and I've already had to tow my tractor out of some mud in the last few weeks.
Looking at your list of MOD stuff it certainly fits the CL spec for the chassis.

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Re: Rear Hub seal on S3?
« Reply #21 on: 24 April 2013, 07:05:28 am »
Finally got home in day light last night, 6 hub bolts tight, plastic cap full of oil so I'm going to remove and check the diff breather to see if that's blocked as suggested. I guess it might be just a case of stripping the hub etc down and renewing any possible culprit?


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Re: Rear Hub seal on S3?
« Reply #22 on: 24 April 2013, 08:10:45 am »
Bill,before you go throwing money at a set of parabolics try lubricating the current springs.

Soak with WD40 overnight and again in the morning (more often if you like). Then slap a 50/50 mixture of old engine oil and old diff oil on with your favourite paint brush and go for a drive on a bumpy bit of road (any bit of road nowadays). See what the difference is.

Made a huge difference to my previously rusted solid springs.

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Re: Rear Hub seal on S3?
« Reply #23 on: 24 April 2013, 09:31:36 am »
Check that plastic cap very carefully; it only takes a hairline crack for them to start chucking oil out, and from the pattern on the wheel it looks like a fairly localized source.

Also if the rest of the axle goes with the plastic cap then its a really late one. This is good because it means it should have a better oil sealing arrangement inside the hub which is far less likely to contaminate your brakes if it fails (there is an oil catcher in there and there's a path machined to channel the oil outside your backplate to keep it off the shoes).
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« Reply #24 on: 24 April 2013, 03:03:39 pm »
Brilliant, thanks for the advice again.

I will do some more digging in to the oil leak and oil up the springs as you suggest.

Thanks.