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Re: A plea to any electrical wizards out there!
« Reply #15 on: 14 September 2012, 01:49:45 pm »
To maintain general sanity it is worth checking all of the earths are in good condition. I always run two from the battery rather than the factory's one, the additional I connect to one of the distributor retaining bolts. I've found more often than not this cures a lazy starter motor, as the starter motor has an earth to the chassis the extra one no doubt helps with other things too. I would suggest for testing purposes you run an earth wire direct from the battery to the light unit that's playing up. If that cures things it would be well worth adding a more permanent solution such as an additional earth from the tub to the chassis. This wouldn't have to be very heavy gauge wire. I tend to re-wire with trailer cable and earth the lights from somewhere up front as well as it all helps.
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« Reply #16 on: 14 September 2012, 03:06:23 pm »
Thanks for the tip Noel. I've just run a wire from the battery to the faulty light earth wire but it's not fixed it. While that was in place I also tried connecting the other two Red and Green/Purple wires across to the other tail light...still the same. Now I'm not even sure that the other brake light is working - it was yesterday  ???  It's difficult to check when you're on your own and the sun is bright!! Even using a mirror at the back doesn't help  :(

Any electrical ninjas in the Mansfield area? I need this back in to MOT centre by tomorrow at the latest otherwise it's another full MOT  :eek:

Really getting desperate now...
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« Reply #17 on: 14 September 2012, 04:36:01 pm »
After much dicking about resting mirrors up aganst the lawnmower and angling it so that I can see it in the wing mirror while I operate the brake etc, I can confirm that neither of the brake lights now work  :(  I've tried all manner of things to ensure that there is a good earth, but I'm afraid this has got me beat. It's probably something simple, but at this point I'm prepared to accede that I'm an idiot who shouldn't be left to do anything more complicated than change the batteries in a torch  ::)

My forlorn hope to get the MOT pass tomorrow morning now lies in tatters. If anyone can offer me some hope that I can resolve this problem I will recommend you as a volunteer for the Samaritans.

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« Reply #18 on: 14 September 2012, 04:39:48 pm »
Take the two connectors off the brake light switch (on top of pedal box) and connect together temporarily. Switch on ignition and see what happens. If brake lights work, then switch is faulty / needs adjusting. Unscrew switch and recconnect to terminals. Press plunger in and out and see what happens. If works, refit and adjust so that it comes on with pedal slightly depressed. If does not work, buy two replacements as they are generally **** quality and prone to failure.

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« Reply #19 on: 14 September 2012, 06:02:30 pm »
Fen, you are indeed a God amongst men...thank you for saving my sanity  :giddy:

Here's hoping I can get it in tomorrow to get it checked off  :thumbs:

Many thanks to everyone who responded to my plea.

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« Reply #20 on: 14 September 2012, 09:52:04 pm »
Lesson to be learned hear Fen car electrics are simpler than you think.. all circuits work to a basic principle. Live into switch. Live out of switch to component, such as lights.. and component to earth . First idea don't throw that old light away as they make excellent test lamps and would have made your life a lot simpler on this task. Attach it to a decent length of wire with a couple of small crocodile clips on the end (cost pennies from motor factors) .this way you should be able to test any component from in the cab of your motor ... Remember Live to switch .Switch to component . component to earth . Three tests  it really is that simple good luck with  MOT>>> :giddy:

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« Reply #21 on: 14 September 2012, 10:25:12 pm »
Trev

Sorry just seen your post take it your all sorted im in Skegby just up the road and a spark know that does not help you

Out in the morning if you still have problems in latter

Simon

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« Reply #22 on: 14 September 2012, 10:46:47 pm »
 rofl Poor old me, turns out I know nothing about car electrics...

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« Reply #23 on: 14 September 2012, 11:16:53 pm »
 :banghead  Doh ! sorry fen put your name in there instead of trev . Its friday and all that. normal service will resume at playtime tomorrow :smilewide:

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Re: A plea to any electrical wizards out there!
« Reply #24 on: 15 September 2012, 08:46:11 am »
Thanks roverland...I need to crack this stuff. MOT was successfully negotiated!  :smile1

Simon, I've sent you a pm mate  :thumbs:

Once again, thanks to all for your help and advice.

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Re: A plea to any electrical wizards out there!
« Reply #26 on: 15 September 2012, 10:05:46 pm »
Glad you got the ticket, as roverland says thankfully Land Rover electrics are dead simple - even an electrical numpty like me can find a way around them. If you want to see horrible come to my bus depot - CANbus this, multiplexed that. Modern motors are  :****:
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« Reply #27 on: 28 April 2013, 08:35:57 pm »
Nice to see you today Trev and to final sort it out for you 6 joints in one wire in six inches did not help

who ever invented scotch locks whats  :smiley-furious: they cause more trouble

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Re: A plea to any electrical wizards out there!
« Reply #28 on: 28 April 2013, 08:50:12 pm »
For brake light issues try removing and cleaning the bulbs and bulb holders. reassemble with a smear of contact grease or vaseline.

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« Reply #29 on: 29 April 2013, 09:45:26 pm »
Glad you got it sorted! Sorry I've been offline or I'd've tried to help!

Wiring on old vehicles is fairly easy - and easier with a good wiring diagram & multimeter, don't let it get to you!

One thing I've learnt is to NEVER rely on the bodywork being a good earth as corrosion (accelerated due to a voltage difference across often damp dissimilar metals!) causes one of the most common faults on lighting with older vehicles (even when they were younger than they are now they had issues, my dad's austin A40 is fondly remembered in this regard!) - always run a separate earth if you get the chance!